The 5.5 grain load burned clean but I want to reduce it (to same wear on the gun) as much as possible and still get reasonable accuracy. ALL 135 gr 160 gr 180 gr 185 gr 200 gr 210 gr 215 gr 225 gr 230 gr 240 gr 250 gr 255 gr 260 gr 300 gr 320 gr 325 gr 335 gr 360 gr 395 gr. And .45 ACP on my Star and there were standard powder bars that came with the press. Titegroup has it all – low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. Many use 3.5 - 4.0 for 180-200 gr lead or coated bullets. 4.2 will just be more potent, but not excessive in most guns with those bullets. Bullseye was/is the official hard ball 45 ACP load for the Military since time began 4.8 gr or so for 230 gr bullet http://www.alliantpowder.com/reload...owderlist.aspx&type=1&powderid=1&cartridge=35 munitions industry. There are about three jillion different powders and bullets for it, and unprimed cases of excellent quality are available from several sources, including those from Starline and Hornady that I used in building handloads for this report. 997 near max: HP38/W231: 5.0 … Part 1: Be Sure of Your Load Data and Components. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. (Handloader Issue 146 - July/August, 1990) Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data. I have a Dillon 550 set up for both the 45 and the Hornet. Unsurpassed for .45 ACP target loads. I would like recommend that … I’m pretty sure 4.3 grains of bullseye is right in the middle of the range for 45 ACP, so there’s potential there too, but I haven’t messed with it. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. Would 5 grains be a bit heavy. IIRC it was on the edge of +P pressures for 38 SPL, but you can check just about any load manual for 125 grain load data and bullseye and see for yourself. I need load data using Zero 230 grain FMJ with Bullseye powder. I'm new to this but I have a little extra data. Canister Sizes: View All Bullseye ® Recipes. Data and applications for RedDot and Bullseye are often quite similar. You might want to try 160 gr. In browsing through internet sites I found one load: Hornady 185-gr XTP 5.6 GRs. We have more info about Detail, Specification, Customer Reviews and Comparison Price. ... (COL) for the exact bullet you’re using using a load manual as reference. Click "Get Data" to view results. SWC from Brazos or Bob's. The .45 ACP (right) was developed at the request of the U.S. military and produced similar performance to military .45 Colt (left) loads. I’m going to try most of them to see what works best for our guns. Im admittedly a tad out of my wheelhouse when it comes to any 45 auto load besides the tried and true 230 grainer over 5 grains of Bullseye. AMMO promotes branded munitions, including the Jesse James line of munitions and accessories, /stelTH/ subsonic munitions, and OPS (One Precise Shot), a. .45 ACP - Cast Bullets: Warning! Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type 914 FPS: Unique: 7.0 gr. I do intend to try the 185 coated lead bullets with that charge just to see how it works. I might buy some XTP bullets just to test the load but don’t think the added expense justifies the cost. The author did not personally handload, test fire or chronograph samples of this .45 ACP load during the research and preparation of this article. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by JamieC, Sep 8, 2015. Would you like to react to this message? The STREAK line. Billions of rounds have been loaded with Bullseye since it was introduced in 1913. Principal Purpose: Handgun loads. There is another reason, we shoot Hunters Pistol Silhouette with .22 Hornet and use 4.5 GRS. "STREAKing" Goes Viral – Visual Ammunition is a Must-See – 380 ACP, … I have a Ruger P90TH. Bullseye and Vhitavuori N310 are very similar, except N310 is a little hotter and cleaner. That load evolved into a 230-grain bullet moving at 850 fps. So, my questions are1) does anyone use a similar load using a different, cleaner burning powder and2) do you shoot at a range with similar ground cover and how do you initially clean your brass? However, 4.2 may be just a tad light for 185 JHP bullets, but each gun differs at least slightly, some vastly, depending on how tight it is, springs used and whether it has a slide mounted scope or not. .45acp plated/Bullseye lightest load to make major..? JHP Bullet According to both Dorman and Lawless, the Nosler 185 JHP bullet has shown itself to be more accurate than either a cast lead semi-wadcutter or a jacketed semi-wadcutter in the .45 ACP. Today's .45 ACP factory loads push 230-grain bullets at velocities ranging from the low 800s to the high 800s in fps. JMHO 981 max: Titegroup: 5.0 gr. Right now I'm planning on loading 4 grains of Bullseye with a 200 grain RNFP (Cowboy) bullet. I'm sure some of you do this. I’m not sure but I believe the .45 was 4.2 BE. Fast burning and consistent. Clays works for low-level loads, but pressures climb before you can get higher velocities. Many use 3.5 - 4.0 for 180-200 gr lead or coated bullets. It would probably be happier at heavier charges. 908 start: Universal: 6.4 gr. 765 (actual in Colt45 ACP for mild load) Unique: 7.2 gr. Chrono said 660 -680 and with a 10lb spring I never had a problem. 4.0 of.WST should work just fine with the 185.. i shoot that load with 180 FBSWC at 25.. cleaner and feels.a touch softer.than BE. Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue. I don't recall at the moment what reloading guide I got that from. Too, the range in covered in decomposed granite and the brass gets some dirty from that too. .45 ACP - IPSC Major Loads (Oregon Trail Handgun Data) 8.45 ACP - NRA Bullseye Loads (Oregon Trail Handgun Data) 6.45 ACP - Standard Loads (Oregon Trail Handgun Data) 80.45 ACP Automatic in a Colt Gold Cup National Match: 13.45 ACP Ball Duplication Loads in a Colt: 16.45 ACP Ball Duplication Loads in an S&W: 12 For years I loaded .38 SPL. What am I missing? For light target to standard loads I go with Bullseye and W231. I used Speer #14 data for 45 Auto Rim and their 250 grain LSWC (#4684). The question: Do you use the same loading data for .45 ACP with small primers as with large primers? http://www.alliantpowder.com/reload...owderlist.aspx&type=1&powderid=1&cartridge=35, http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=182147&d=1364769070, http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=407195. It makes "major" in IPSC, etc. Current Alliant data for.45 Auto with a 230 grain TMJ bullets and Bullseye shows a max charge of 5.7 grains, and 840 fps from a 4.4" barrel. Slow fire is at reduces 50 yard targets at 25 yards. Prior to the 5.5 grain load, I had tried 5.0 grains (only about 695 fps) but had large velocity variations, poor accuracy, and velocities well lower than shown in my loading manuals for the .45 ACP and 231/HP-38. I've tested 3.9, 4.0, 4.1...4.1 gets you up to ~750fps. The 45 ACP just loves to be handloaded, and doing so is falling-off-a-log easy. 988 MAX: Universal: 6.0 gr. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. The 230gr LSWC, 4.0gr gets 810fps, 4.8gr, (the 'hot' load), gets 884fps. just a wee bit harder to locate than BE, WST, or most any others.. Jim: What’s the powders most used in Trap these days. Probably not getting a full seal in chamber will result in dirty brass. 855 start: Clays: 4.9 gr. They seem to be quite accurate and the load functions the guns well. A similar light load is 5.8/Unique/200 LSWC, but it may not burn quite as cleanly. Allen Wade; When starting re-loading pistol cart. We haven’t chronographed the load so not sure about the velocity but recoil isn’t bad and as I stated it seems quite accurate. .45 Colt - Manufacturer Loading Data. It seems crisper and at 25 yards from my rest it is basically keyholes. Select your cartridge type from the drop-down list. Pistol; Rifle; Cowboy; GR. We are currently using Missouri Bullet company 185 SWC coated bullets and 3.6 grs. However the BE is dirty-smokey and makes cleaning the brass more of a chore that I think it should be. There is no single formula that all Bullseye shooters employ; several loads will produce excellent accuracy. Howdy, you may remember me from my post a couple days ago about the .38/44 loads. Since Alliant took over production of Bullseye powder from Hercules, the formula has apparently changed and the new production Bullseye powder is not Needed: 45 ACP Load data for Bullseye (Alliant) powder and 200 LSWC bullet - IDPAforum I load 185gr XTP's with 3.8gr of Alliant E3 powder, Starline, WLP's, 1.220" OAL, no crimp (I re-size after seating). I presume Red Dot is as popular as ever... Clay Dot, Clays, Red Dot, Winchester Super Handicap (1255 FPS 1 1/8 oz shot). Supposed to be temperature stable too. It says: Test gun 6.5″ barreled S&W Model 25-2, Remington 45 Auto Rim cases, CCI300 primers, 1.24″ OAL. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. Test gun was Colt Double Eagle with five-inch barrel. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. of 231 which burns clean and seems, at least to us, give good accuracy and plenty of oomph to know down the Rams, albeit it rather slow. Thanks to all for the information and suggestions. 928: Unique: 6.0 gr. Don't concern your self about weight variations. I would start a tenth or two lower with N310. 200gr LSWC, Bullseye, 4.2-4.8gr. We, my son and I, shoot bullseye matches in Arizona. If you like 3.6 BE? I shoot a lot of 45, I either use 3.8 grns of Bullseye or 4.5 grns of Unique and 230 grn cast bullets (except EIC matches where FMJ bullets are required) I know, they are light loads, but function in all my 1911s. My Speer #13 load manual says 5.2-5.7 with a 230 gr. All Palmetto Reloading Gear/Accessories! 4.2 BE should be an acceptable starting point for just about any .45 acp load. 892 start: Titegroup: 5.5 gr. HOT +P load 1,050 fps. We also shoot Hunter’s Pistol Silhouette with T/C .22 Hornet and reload that brass but as they are single shot the brass is relative clean after the match and I just wipe it off before lubing it for reloading. and is very accurate. For pistol rounds like 45 ACP or 9mmm Parabellum a slight change in seating depth can have a large effect on peak pressures. Please let me know your load & overall length for this cartridge with the RNFP bullet. 4.2 will just be more potent, but not excessive in most guns with those bullets. Remarks: America's best known pistol powder. Palmettostatearmory. Economical and accurate. I'm not sure about any 'military' load using Bullseye, but 4.6 is definitely light. FMJ. 230 LSWC, Bullseye, 4.0-4.8, the 4.8 is listed as a "hot" load. Coated bullets produce way less smoke than traditionally wax-lubed cast bullets. 956 max: PowerPistol: 9.1 gr. Both shot decent but I really didn't care for PP in .45 for medium loads. COL at 1.260. Also would like to hear recipes for Unique and PowerPistol powder Will be shooting a Glock 21 and a Kimber 1911 Thanks 7.4gr HS6 for 700 fps (45AR not 45ACP) 7.8gr HS6 for 787 fps (45AR not 45ACP) In 45 ACP, the start load chronographed 100fps faster than indicated! Also a very good general purpose load as the velocity runs 855 - 880 fps from 5" barrels. *Very* clean burning. BE. Their load data was 5.7 grains with a 230 grain FMJ. For my use with the Gold Cup and other .45 ACP 1911’s, I mostly use just three powders. Try it out. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Then select your bullet weight, powder manufacturer and powder type. COL at 1.260. I will call in short term as Bullseye Powder 40 Caliber Handgun Load Data For individuals who are searching for Bullseye Powder 40 Caliber Handgun Load Data review. I checked Alliant's web site. 4.2 BE should be an acceptable starting point for just about any .45 acp load. 230s with 6.7 where a little better. I have a couple of questions regarding reloads for 45 ACP 1911 Bullseye loads. I would like to use Bullseye powder. Soft shooting ~650fps MV. 6.2-6.5/ Unique/230 should duplicate factory FMJ ammo. Find the components you’ll need for the loading session, and keep them together. All groups five shots each from sandbag rest; 20-yard indoor range. Basically no difference in suggested powder amounts for two different weight bullets, right? Using 231 would let me stock one less type of powder. 977 max: Clays: 4.5 gr. Good Ransom results out of my older Colt NM 1911 (with a lightened slide), 12.5# WC spring, full-length guide rod, Schumann 1:16 barrel. Less weight means less recoil. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Hey Guys, Wondered if anyone can advise on a proven recipe for .45ACP, using Berry's plated 230 grain bullets. For standard loads to heavier everyday working loads, my choice of powder is the same as it’s been for more than half a century—namely Unique. The heavier are good with pins, plates and body mass. My standard load for 195 - 205 gr SWCs in the 45 ACP is 5 gr Bullseye. You'll feel the difference. I was shooting 3.8 grains of N310 with a .466 crimp and OAL of 1.250 but I think it is too soft now! Now I am experimenting with 4.2 and it just feels better. You'll probably use a #14 or even #12 spring. I think you will find when chronographed, 5.3 grains of Bullseye and a Rem/WW 230 grain FMJ RN, give or take a 1/10 will get you the "GI" spec load you want from a 5" 1911. W231 which, through a Kart Barrel, gave 1.35”.Shooting Times /Bob Miller PhD.-2018. I used the only 200gr data i could find which was for a SWC, and laddered the load … I loaded up some 200 MBC coated SWCs with 6.5gr PowerPistol. Find what you need in four easy steps. WST has a softer kick than BE since it has a slightly slower burn rate and it's a little cleaner than BE. #Best Highlight Bullseye Powder 40 Caliber Handgun Load Data is best in online store. Note: I do understand until I personally put it together and chrono it with My gun, load data is a ballpark. I want to load 'em in 45 ACP cases for occasional WB matches. A database of .45 acp handloads. 44/45 Caliber .45acp plated/Bullseye lightest load to make major..? A couple months ago I picked up some 200 gr RNFP from SNS casting. 45 Acp Frangible Ammo For Sale Ammo Incorporated Releases STREAK Visual Ammunition – 45 ACP. In this report, I'm focusing on .45 ACP loads with 185-grain jacketed bullets. 3.8 WST is my go to load for 185 and 200 lead bullets. The 45 ACP was originally developed using Bullseye. By JeremiahD, May 2, 2017 in 44/45 Caliber. Appreciate any suggestion, experience. When he created the .45 ACP in 1904-05, it pushed a 200-grain bullet to 900 fps. Bullseye was/is the official hard ball 45 ACP load for the Military since time began. Also, using the 200gr LSWC, 4.2gr Bullseye is listed @ 790fps, 4.8gr @ 815fps. Load some with all three (4.6, 5.0, 5.2). If you're unsure, or just want options, check as many boxes as you'd like. I think I have Trail Boss, Winchester 231, Tite Group, Bullseye, & Clays on hand Thanks in advance --Dawg Bullseye: 5.3 gr. again last year, Bulleye a long time favorite, stand by of about everyone at one time or the other w Needed: 45 ACP Load data for Bullseye (Alliant) powder and 200 LSWC bullet - Page 2 - IDPAforum 3.6 is a good but light load. Jacketed bullets generally have the edge in accuracy over lead bullets, and among jacketed bullets, jacketed hollowpoint bullets are usually favored. 5.0 gr was the original military "hardball" load for generations, using FMJ bullets of course. The history of the .45 ACP (aka .45 Auto) really began with the .45 Colt during the early 1870s, which was adopted by the U.S. military in 1873, along with the Colt Single Action Army revolver. She’ll ctcher and stainless pin tumbling takes care of all those problems.
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