Ironwood being militaristic (maybe pragmatic if I have the definition correct in my head). Having rewatched what has been without a doubt my favourite season of RWBY to date, I am finding myself supporting Ironwood's decisions over that of Team RWBY & Friends once confronted with Salem. Both groups still share the same goal of defeating Salem, but Ironwood and the Ace-Ops treat them as enemies to varying degrees when it becomes clear they won't abandon Mantle. Not even addressing the shot at the end of volume 7, since that wasn't known when the gang was confronted by Salem, it exhausted the Atlas forces to hold off one wave of Grimm (at least that's what Ironwood said during Gravity - 15:57ish). Ironwood’s overall power stems from the consent of the people to his authority, and their willingness to die for him and his cause. Ironwood hails from the region of Atlas, where he is the headmaster of an academy, as well as an officer in the military, holding the rank of general. We aren’t able to keep up right now, our writers, social media managers, artists, everyone is extremely drained and in need of a little break. Log in Sign up. Ironwood is a total dictator now. Because when you back something into a corner it does whatever it has to to escape. However, he uses the limited resources of Mantle to build the communications tower. He also has a mustache and green eyes. Rated: Fiction M - English - Humor/Parody - J. Ironwood, Team RWBY, Oscar P., Robyn H. - Words: 1,927 - Reviews: 4 - Favs: 7 - Follows: 4 - Published: 6/12 - Status: Complete - id: 13613376 Sell custom creations to people who love your style. •Lastly, Clover’s death is on Ironwood’s hands. Also, I will say this once, there is NO Ace Ops OC characters here. It is far easier to prevent the maiden's power from falling into Salem's hands when your forces aren't all focused on trying to protect a doomed city; Mantle. "Lilat, it's been some time," he stepped past the now very quiet Yang as he made to face his guest. Share your thoughts, experiences and the tales behind the art. The other kingdoms won't trust Atlas anymore. That leaves two possibilities. Oz is the incarnation of the King of Vale; the man who defeated the Mystral and Atlesian Armies almost on his own and could have achieved world domination at … Authoritarianism is always harmful to society. But as the years went on, paranoia and cowardice crept in. She has all the time in the world on her side. They belong to Roosterteeth. Watts is a man with short black and gray hair. Ironwood doubles down on his plan during the confrontation in his office, but he started the plan during the scene when he's talking to Winter. It is because of Qrow's warning that Ironwood brings his fleet to Vale in hopes of preventing any conflict in the Vytal Festival, an action which only frustrates Qrow. If the plan could be thwarted because "Grimm can fly", it would take the characters' stupidity to a whole other level. They are already carrying out their part before Team RWBY enters Ironwood's office. They knew she had a plan to destroy Ozpin and save Remnant. Resources have now actually been wasted, and potentially more lives will be lost due to splitting and arresting allies. Ironwood's posture made a shift as his role changed from interrogator to associate. RWBY isn’t interested in portraying Ironwood and Ruby as two heroes who go about saving people in different ways, like it was for Yang and Ruby: “You go save individuals and I’ll tell the world about Salem. Even if they can fly high enough for no Grimm to reach them i would be surprised if Atlas suddenly becomes self-sustainable. The lift off is no defense at all. Winter Schnee (RWBY) Volume 4 (RWBY) Romance; Eventual Smut; Summary. He will start with Atlas itself and once the situation there is under control, he will tell the rest of the kingdoms. Winter and Penny know the plan before Team RWBY, the Ace-Ops, or the Audience. Oz, as the other major patriarch in RWBY, is the only real challenge in all of Remnant to Ironwood’s authority at this point. RWBY: General Ironwood's Master Plan. We might disagree about how to help, but the narrative presents both actions as helping” (stupidity of the Amity plan aside). By Soundwave3591 Watch. Internal and external. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Now she can find out where Choice is hidden. Then Robyn starts a fight with Clover like a complete dumbass and suddenly Qrow decides to fight Clover too. Establishing the trust theme early on. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Anime/Manga Fanfiction Rwby Ozpin Ironwood James James Ironwood Volume 7 Rwby Volume 7 Rwby 7 The General’s fist clenched at his side, only able to bow his head at the sight of the ancient door; his mind just… couldn’t stop racing . Yeah, for all the bitching about RWBY not having a cohesive and well thought out plan, Ironwood really is no better. I only own my OCs. General James Ironwood is an anti-hero in the American animated webseries RWBY. Given the attack itself would have lured Grimm from miles around and Salem, who has control over the Grimm, hinted that she was coming herself, it is unlikely she wouldn't show up with a force that was equal to the previous wave if not larger. The two possibilities: I do admit that, if Salem does know of the evacuation policy, it is likely only a short term defence. Oz is the incarnation of the King of Vale; the man who defeated the Mystral and Atlesian Armies almost on his own and could have achieved world domination at the end of the war if he had pleased. Upload stories, poems, character descriptions & more. The future-fantasy world of Remnant is filled with ravenous monsters, treacherous terrain, and more villains than you can shake a sniper-scythe at. •Elevating Atlas would not have protected it in the slightest, since Salem turns up riding a flying whale surrounded by flying Grimm. When Ironwood declares martial law, the Ace-Ops turn on Team RWBY, Qrow, and Robyn when they disagree with Ironwood's plan to deal with Salem's incoming army. When Ruby tries warning her allies about Ironwood’s plan, he disables her scroll, and has Teams RWBY, JNR, Oscar and Qrow arrested. We haven't been given enough information to make a determination either way on whether Ironwood's plan could work. RWBY and JNR receive upgrades to their weapons and outfits. Experiment with DeviantArt’s own digital drawing tools. A tragic death regardless. Ruby is a gambler. Atlas and Mantle fall, all those unable to flee are presumably slaughtered. "Lilat, it's been some time," he stepped past the now very quiet Yang as he made to face his guest. He is going to tell the world about Salem. For Qrow, it means more: getting sober, dealing with the past, and explaining his secret marriage to James Ironwood. Ironwood was the first to turn. Even if we do take it into account, we have no evidence to suggest that the Grimm can reach the upper atmosphere to the point where dust would not be able to project high enough. I don't disagree with the idea that Salem may find a way to get to Atlas however it does give the kingdom something they've been lacking for a long time; time. RWBY (2069) Harry Potter - J. K. 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Trying to protect mantle was definitely risky but as a huntress, saving all those people would be a very high reward for her. Whatever the case, Ironwood's plan is so much riskier than he realizes. When Ruby tries warning her allies about Ironwood’s plan, he disables her scroll, and has Teams RWBY, JNR, Oscar and Qrow arrested. (At least, that's what Ruby described in "Gravity" at roughly 17:05) Given the tower isn't even finished construction and the Grimm are upon Mantle, this is banking on a lot of time which, as Salem mentioned, is not on their side. Team RWBY vs the Ace Ops Photo from rwby.fandom.com. See a recent post on Tumblr from @shana340artblog about rwby ironwood. I'll try to address each bullet point you made. Enjoy. That's not how I'm planning this volume out. 2K Views. By the time Ruby's Group makes their way through his closed borders, Ironwood has thought of a new plan to defeat Salem. As long as you save as many people as you can then you win. If Ironwood can't sustain Atlas that high in the atmosphere, then he'd have to touch down eventually. He needs people to make his plans happen. Ironwood’s a man with good intentions, but he seems to believe the best way to handle any sort of situation is if he is in full control of it. You think the people who were already evacuated from Mantle are going to be happy when they find out any friends/family they had in Mantle who weren't immediately evacuated were left to die? Somebody needs to get back down and get resources (dust, food, everything else...). She was the answer to ending the evil that plagued their world. That said, if Salem and Watt's haven't figured out the relic's power, then I'd make this argument. Here we are at Chapter 110. At a minimum he would have peeked into the machine holding Atlas up, seen that dust wasn't responsible and together with Salem they would have concluded it was the relic. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Time for the gang to finally enter Atlas, and hopefully (or unhopefully) meet up with Ironwood. On predictability: I must concede that Salem and Watts may already know of the nature of Atlas however I do not think this is guaranteed for two reasons. That's pretty cataclysmic. Salem might believe she can just wait until then. Isolating Atlas is only helping Salem to divide humanity. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. (or even likely imo - I'll cover that later) If the liftoff is no defence at all then it very quickly turns into a situation which is very similar to RWBY's plan of holding until Amnity can be launched - practically boned. Ironwood's posture made a shift as his role changed from interrogator to associate. Recent Top. This appears to be the minority view (or at least the less vocal one) from my skimming the sub so I'm taking the stage to defend my main man James. Fortunately, Beacon Academy is training Huntsmen and Huntresses to battle the evils of the world, and Ruby, Weiss, Blake, and Yang are ready for their first day of class. First he agrees to come along and talk things out with Ironwood. He was a head scientist in Atlas, the exact type of person who'd have been responsible for working on the machines to hold up Atlas. So, where does this put us in terms of risks? Team RWBY's plan appeared to be to fend off the Grimm until the Amity tower could be launched and re-establish global communication so a join effort could (eventually) be made. It took almost a season for team RWBY to reach Atlas from the northern part of Mistral which itself is considerably closer to Atlas than Vacuo is. A short comic dialogue where Ironwood is surrounded by the characters of RWBY who accuse him of being a villain. Blake never bothered sharing vital tactical information about Adam's semblance with anyone, they don't seem to have ever bothered asking 'in combat terms, what can magic do, just in case we ever have to fight a magic user as that might be helpful info to have', their concept of 'planning' is almost always at the 'run in and stab it, if that doesn't work we'll throw some bullshit together' level. I've noticed people bring up the fact that Ironwood is a "professional military strategist" but why does that really matter what experience does he have in that field? Most of the conflict in the future episodes is the result of Team RWBY's sociopathic and self-righteous actions, in fact most of this shit could have been avoided if Ruby and Co just told the truth, talk things out and come up with an alternative to Ironwood's plan… Shut up Kitten, everyone knows about your real feelings towards the Tau. I certainly agree that the plan is by no means the best; evacuations rarely are (ask Dunkirk and the Philipines during WW2). She likes high risk high reward. Vacuo is already essentially on there own. Ironwood's plan did not have any way to deal with Neo. Meaning Salem can just go find them. Team RWBY Ironwood, Penny, Winter, and Clover were in the dining room along with the council members, Robyn and Jacques, who was now under arrest thanks to the video shown by Weiss. May take 3-5 weeks or less to complete. I hope we get another one like this soon, either with Rogal Dorn again or with my personal favorite Leman Russ. Add custodes from if the emperor had a text speech device series in rwby or rwby reaction to the series instead. 228 Comments. Ironwood and Qrow are both part of Ozpin's inner circle, although they do not always see eye-to-eye. After they meet in person, Ironwood tells the group of his new plan which involves updating the communication systems of Remnant through Amity Colosseum and revealing the existence of Salem to the world, showing RWBY's group an image of the Amity … During th… Atlas will face massive internal issues from Ironwood's plan. Either Salem can get to Ironwood by flying up there, or she has a way of forcing him down. Vacuo likely falls. If she knows about the relic, then she knows that it would be used in a do or die situation and she wouldn't put Atlas in that position. The harms of Ironwood's plan would be the following: Mantle falls, those left behind are presumably slaughtered. Discover more posts about rwby ironwood. Thus they'd know Atlas retreating is a possibility. When Ruby points out he allowed them to keep the Relic of Knowledge, Ironwood explains he changed his mind after learning of Team RWBY’s lies. Neo steals the relic, Salem gets Knowledge. Things in Atlas will probably be the ugliest as things are reaching a boiling point there with the people of Mantle. Secondly, Watts does have extensive access with his hacking but there is no indication that the machine holding up Atlas is connected into a wider network that could be monitored externally; even if there was, it doesn't guarantee that Watts has examined that aspect of Atlas' system. His weapon of choice is a revolver. Now, if Salem had brought enough forces to just take Mantle and no further then the evac is certainly the worse option but this is not guaranteed. Even if Salemin her thousands of years fighting Oz didn't know what the relic was capable of (seems unlikely), Watts would. If Atlas falls bc of RWBY's plan, wouldn't Vacuo's destruction happen anyway? Who will come out the winner? 1 Biography 1.1 Past 1.2 Volume 7 1.3 … The reason why I think this leaves Ironwood's plan better off is that the chances of Salem not bringing enough forces seems relatively low. He couldn’t trust his fate to Salem any longer. Tyrian and Watts themselves both literally spell out that he’s playing right into Salem’s hands. His ultimate plan is to restore global communications and reveal her existence to first Atlas, and then all of Remnant, in order to combat her as a united force. I believe that since Ironwood, Oscar, Ozpin, RWBY and Ace Ops didn't have a counter argument pointing out flaws, that it's unlikely there are major flaws. Why Salem wouldn't have put pressure on Ironwood if she knew he could escape? But here's the thing: With Ironwood's plan they would at least live long enough for those problems become a thing and thus have a chance to solve them. Now that Penny is the new Winter Maiden, one of the main objectives is obtaining Atlas’s Relic. Ironwood's actually got a rational plan here, RWBY has nothing and is making staggeringly stupid decisions with no goal in mind the results of which only NATURALLY lead to the worst case scenario of everyone in the city dying and dooming the world as they actively made things worse. As a member of Ozpin's inner circle, Ironwood is aware of Salem's existence and the threat she poses to Remnant. alfabusa rwby rogal_dorn rwby_ruby_rose rwby_blake_belladonna rwby_yang_xiao_long rwby_weiss_schnee rwby_winterschnee. She is a Huntress and member of the Happy Huntresses under Robyn Hill, who use vigilantism to protect and provide for Mantle. I’ll still take the inexperienced architect or the guy telling the architect what the concept being the building should be. That doesn't mean it is a good decision however. This is a list of characters who appear in RWBY, an original anime-style CG-animated web series created by Rooster Teeth Productions.. She was the answer to ending the evil that plagued their world. Sacrifice things that to win the entire war. Oh I absolutely agree, that sounds like very apt analysis of why Ruby acted the way she did and how that's consistent with her character. as either way they'll be forced to engage the Grimm almost instantly. 120 Favourites. Not only because of what it would mean for the Atlas plan, but because they've been working on the Amnity plan for weeks/months and nobody had ever thought of Grimm wings. He needs people to make his war machines. Upload your creations for people to see, favourite and share. alfabusa rwby rogal_dorn rwby_ruby_rose rwby_blake_belladonna rwby_yang_xiao_long rwby_weiss_schnee rwby_winterschnee. Anyway, I do not own RWBY. If she gets both, and another Maiden? According to series creator Monty Oum, every character's name is tied to a specific color.There are also other teams with their name combining to form acronyms that are also tied to a color. Fee to change plan to have 2x6 EXTERIOR walls (if not already specified as 2x6 walls) Plan typically loses 2" from the interior to keep outside dimensions the same. Whereas, the risks of Team RWBY's plan are (at the very least). He is the headmaster of Atlas Academy, a General in the Atlesian military, and a holder of two seats on the Atlesian Council. He needs them to supply his army with troops willing to … Many democracies halt elections during war, leading to essentially and oligarchy bordering on military junta rule, and older republics had dictators be appointed in times of immense strife under emergency powers (the Roman Cinncinatus comes to mind). Ironwood announces his new plan: To apply the plan for Amity to Atlas, using the Relic to raise the kingdom up into the higher atmosphere away from Salem’s touch. 228 Comments. There will be considerable issues regarding internal stability for Atlas for sure. He also had the ability to hack Atlas security. shana340artblog. Ozpin’s goal is to unite humanity. Ironwood should just let Rogal Dorn do all the planning. Which is kinda acceptable if the only thing on the line is your lives, and maybe a few unfortunate civilians nearby, but this is basically the final fight - if Salem gets the lamp, she wins eventually. (At least, that's what Ruby described in "Gravity" at roughly 17:05) Given the tower isn't even finished construction and the Grimm are upon Mantle, this is banking on a lot of time which, as Salem mentioned, is … By Soundwave3591 Watch. - If Salem doesn't know about the possibility of evacuation and/or has brought enough forces to crush both cities then Ironwood's plan is better.- If Salem hasn't brought enough forces to take both cities, Team RWBY's plan is better.- If Salem knows about the evac plan and it is not an effective defence at all then Team RWBY's plan is marginally better(?) The sacrifice will be Mantle’s doom. Assuming Mantle is overrun that might be a bit difficult. He grossly underestimated Salem, a mistake that a General absolutely should not be making. We don't have enough information to know how Salem can counteract Ironwood's plan, but she can do it. Atlas is even further isolated from the rest of Remnant. A chance to re-organise and come up with a better plan than what boils to either YOLO or yeeting a city into the sky. However, given the Kingdom was on the verge of collapse and more Grimm were on the way, there would be some understanding for the decision made; there are no good options in war. I'll try to address each one in order of being raised. poor James really needs a vacation... or better yet retirement. I was looking at the situation when RWBY diverged from Atlas, with Winter en route to secure the maiden's power, still, the previous point stands. 120 Favourites. They’re not military strategists, but they’re not stupid either. As a master manipulator, Salem would know this basic reaction.
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