It isn’t Obama. It seems that, at least at that point in time, if a farmer lost stock to a bobcat or bear, the state paid for it out of the Fish and Game Fund, and if the stock was killed by dogs, the farmer was compensated by the town dog tax fund, but if coyotes had done the killing, no one paid the farmer a thing; there was no Vermont law that compensated a farmer for stock lost to coyotes. Ack! Coyotes live statewide across all of Pennsylvania, from the most mountainous forest to the largest cities. The body of the “wolf” he’d bought was thick-set and muscular, with short legs like some malamutes or an elkhound. Biologists have noted the decline of foxes following the colonization of coyotes into an area. Helmick wants to expand the state’s sheep industry. For some perspective, the coyotes that live in West Virginia are derived from ancestors that first encountered Europeans on the Great Plains. Furbearer Management Newsletter . is at … All the old time fur buyers I knew are now dead, so I don’t make the rounds inspecting coyote carcasses anymore, but I still stop and check out any coyotes I find dead beside the road, and over the last six or seven years about half have had rear dew claws, so besides wolf in the eastern coyote populations, I think there’s a strong dog influence too, but its quickly covered by the wild canid phenotype. Most Coyotes 1st place 50% 2nd place 25% 3rd place 15% Biggest Coyote of the Tournament 10%. When I asked Frank where the head was, he said, “Bob **** came by to look at the wolf, and he wanted the skull.” If you want a working LGD, I would look at people with aboriginal Nagazi-type COs. I’ve never heard of a pack of coyotes killing a donkey. But I will never defend breeding for form over function or not health testing, especially of large working breeds – it only takes a couple of bad apples to ruin a breed eventually. They are now in Italy and Hungary. People don’t like to have their property damaged or taken, nor their efforts wasted. Now a mule on the other hand–I really like mules. Sheep are labor intensive compared to many other types of livestock. The top sheep producers are: http://www.sheep101.info/farm.html. As for LGD, donkeys, etc — they do definitely help, but there are drawbacks to them and they certainly aren’t foolproof. DAC. They would then be released in a different area. About 10 percent of the time I will eventually be rewarded by the appearance of the pack of coyotes traveling on the ice. Depends on the breed. In some northern states, deer herd densities are relatively low and their habitat consists of vast wild areas with severe winter weather. My first thought when I saw it was “fox”, but on approaching it closer (being in a car) I realized it was a coyote (? Although bounties have been liberally used on coyotes in the west, no bounty system has ever worked. Once I see the tracks of coyotes traveling on a river, I drive in the direction they’re going, most of the time unable to see the river from the road, until I finally come to a spot where I can see the river, but can’t see tracks in the snow on the ice any more. Incidentally, sorry if slightly off subject, but I was amazed by the recent comment played on British tv where some T party lady was saying America must retain its right to bear arms because during the coming “breakdown in American society” families will need to protect themselves from their neighbours. Methods to encourage the sport of predator calling and means to target the coyote as a furbearer and game animal should be explored. Frank wasn’t too happy, but he knew me and knew I knew dogs, so accepted my identification. I’ve had the same experience w/ Pyrs, and those sheepherders in the northwest who’ve tried to rely solely on them have consistently lost their dogs (and livestock) to wolves. In your province, a combination of Great Pyrenees, Kuvaszok and Italian Maremmas employed by Mr. Dennis Loxton for protection of sheep and silvicultural workers against bears has yielded spectacular results. “…biologists…noticed certain golden jackals looked different from others [no shit Sherlock!]. As someone from an island long devoid of large predators I really enjoyed reading these contributions. The neighbor asked “Have you seen my sheep?”, “…but the dead ones all seem to run about 30 to 50 lbs.”. We do live in a built up area where we are cheek by jowl with people and dogs every day, so he’s not in the traditional LGD setup. Runt looked like a shepherd-husky cross, and Hal claimed he had coyote in him, but he looked all dog to me, even though he was colored like a wolf or coyote. And all their reasons why dog-coyote hybrids wouldn’t thrive make little sense to me. There are several reasons why state wildlife agencies do not support bounty programs, chief of which is that they simply have not proven to work historically. Rodents such as rats and mice would be soon out of control without predators. Either donkeys or sheep dogs like Komodors or Great Pyrenees will protect sheep if they live with them. He would terrorize my brothers GSD when he visited, but my own dogs considered him a game, and would go out into the pasture and let him chase them just for fun. Coyotes. I have difficulty judging the size of a coyote past any great distance, and don’t believe many experienced hunters can either (I once had a seasoned hunter who claimed he’d seen a 100 lb. It’s a long walk from the Ukrane to Sweden, unless there are unknown populations of them further north. And cats. I realize Czara is a walking wreck. Properly socilised (or at least well trained enough so you can control it) the guarding instinct isn’t a huge issue (depending on breed). ?” When I said I hadn’t, he went on to tell me that this guy had trapped big wolf in one of his fox/coyote traps, and it had lunged at him showing its teeth when he approached it. And coming from a slightly different perspective: “God is an ever-receding pocket of scientific ignorance that’s getting smaller and smaller and smaller as time moves on.” – Neil Degrasse Tyson. A lot of sheep keeping in the United States is romantic nonsense, and as strange as it sounds, there is large proportion of people who keep sheep solely so they can keep sheep dogs like border collies. Meet the 'coywolf' a hybrid of a wolf and a coyote which is taking over the northeast of the U.S. Anyway, the overall quality of LGDs in this country is poor & there is a great deal of very bad information out there on selecting & training working LGDs. (I once had a neighbor try to assert that it was my fault her dog got in with my sheep by clearing 2 fences, both 5-6′ nonclimb/chain. The coyote is an adaptable animal and there may be more coyotes today than there were in colonial times. Recognizing that Czara is just a bad example from a poor breeding program, I know there have to be other COs and other LGD breeds that are more primitive and physically fit. Sheep ranchers don’t care if a rabbit comes by, because rabbits don’t generally cause a problem for sheep. Is the world only for humans? If I really had a need for such a dog I would be investigating them more thoroughly, but for now my wolfhounds and wolfhound crosses do the job for me. A bounty was put on them, and the last wolf was said to … After making a deposit and waiting more than a year for just the right pup, I was sent one that even at 9 weeks old had obvious physical faults even according to the breed standard. Coyote Bounty Law. Although coyotes and foxes share a common range throughout much of North America, there appears to be an inverse relationship between the densities of coyotes and that of foxes. Or a 5-dollars power-snare? They’d leave what they didn’t want behind for poor old Sam to clean up. Agriculture Commissioner Walt Helmick believes he has the solution to West Virginia’s coyote problem. Why is a rancher willing to accept half the market value when a 50 cent bullet is cheaper? Equipped with his personal journal filled with everything he ever learned about the woods, the team travels to the mountains of the Tygart Valley on a mission to prove that there are still wolves in West Virginia. The Eastern Coyote has only in relative recent times expanded its range to the eastern United States. Of course, if you have only one of these more aggressive breeds, a pack of wolves will easily be able to kill it as well. After reading of a few of Seaman’s exploits, it becomes obvious that he was no Newfoundland as we know the breed today. A coyote has far more sense than any dog, and the chances of a trapper ever being able to catch one of those marked coyotes are really quite low, and we would have to pay trappers to catch the coyotes in the first place. Again in general, LGDs like Komondor and Kangals have been noted to attack people. I’ve only had one LGD if that counts, but my TM is a very well socialized suburb living dog so probably not what you had in mind. (And yes, I know about Vermont merinos, which look like shar-pei sheep!). The only thing I might disagree with is crediting any creation to some mythical god. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Their diet also consists of rabbits, groundhogs, ruffed grouse, turkeys, chipmunks, squirrels, muskrats, fruits, berries, carrion, and the occasional house cat. Funny you should say that, when my neighbor Sam (now in his mid-80’s) was still raising beef cattle, his number one predation problem was sneak thieves who would creep over the fences at night and butcher a cow or steer in situ. Not that it makes him soft or not a proper LGD because of this. wolf I had. Pittsylvania County is a county located in the Commonwealth of Virginia.As of the 2010 census, the population was 63,506. It will cost the taxpayer money. Regarding the bounty, I would expect a lot of “oops, shot someone’s brown dog” cases to occur and yes, I think the solution is stupid and a government waste. They are in all 55 counties and pose a threat to both farm animals and domestic pets. Flash back to the late 1960’s when I lived in New Hampshire. Or your money, valuables? I noticed about eight names on the board before me, but gave it little thought, thinking it might just be a list people he had told about the hearing. It was only after the pup was born that I was informed by this woman that she let her entire pack of COs roam freely on her ranch, and did DNA tests to see who fathered which pups. So I would think a LGD would have to be pretty fast on its feet to even worry coyotes; just barking isn’t going to scare them off. No offense intended, but your CO sounds like a modern type rather than a working type. Helmick is trying to mitigate fraud here, but I don’t think it would be that practical. A full-sized donkey is more than enough for a pair of coyotes. During the last 50 years, expansion of the coyote eastward has come from the northwest and southeast. In a fawn survival study in Centre County Pennsylvania during 2000-2001, 218 fawns were radioed and followed with telemetry equipment. Two or more LGDs & coyote problems tend to vanish into thin air. Quote from the article [my insertions in brackets]: That’s what livestock compensation programs are for. Moreover, they don’t convert food to meat as cost effectively as many other types of livestock. “More of them are being born than we’re removing. Spoilt little emperors and princesses. My CAS, for example, don’t give a predator as large of a window of opportunity to skedaddle as my Pyrs & ASDs. The coyote has been a significant predator in the west and it will likely prove to have the same impacts in the east. By the way, she’s just as protective of her owner’s barn cats as she is of the goats. The mission of the West Virginia Office of Epidemiology and Prevention Services is to improve the health, well-being and quality of life for all West Virginians through disease surveillance, investigation, analysis, education and prevention services. Massugu, biting my keyboard tongue right now. Which makes me believe, in line with some one (perhaps Scottie) mentioning earlier, that many farmers in the east may be keeping small flocks of sheep just to fulfil their desire to keep herding and LG dogs :-). Also, so what if an occasional coyote gets an occasional sheep? If a wolf or wolves is going to run off at just a dog barking, almost any dog could do the job, but I assume there always comes a time in wolf territory where it’s time for the dog to “put up or shut up” and this would take a very tough dog with a lot of fight in them. If anyone interested in dog (and American) history reads of Lewis & Clark’s, Corps of Discovery Expedition west they’ll see that Meriwether Lewis brought a Newfoundland dog named Seaman with him on the trip. Most of North America just isn’t good sheep country. They don’t tolerate strange dogs behaving in a forward manner or invading their space, but they don’t typically seek to engage dogs in battle on sight, either. The great numbers surely present the same “natural” phenomenon than the coyotes of W-V: when the greater predators are gone, there’ll be always new ones coming. It’s apparent that all who comment here are interested in healthy dogs than can live full, useful lives, and not the poor deformed things whose main purpose in life is too trot a few times around a show ring. These people claim to be Estrela Mountain Dog fanciers but the idea that someone actually keeps Estrelas as working LGDs (even though that is WHAT THEY ARE) & expect them to attack & even kill threats to her livestock apparently appalls them. (I can sympathize. “Predator control of coyotes preying on livestock should be restricted to targeted animals. They also tend to kill more quickly when it comes to that, with CAS-killed carcasses almost untouched, the injuries sustained mostly around the neck & head where they grab & kill-shake or rip out the throat, while the Pyr or ASD-killed carcasses typically have small wounds all over & lots of missing fur where they harried it. I’ve never seen a coyote on this side of the continent that didn’t look very doggy or somewhat wolfy. Foot snares are legal when the snare loop: does not exceed 6½ inches in diameter. I see videos of these “Gampr” dogs, and they seem like an especially tough breed, but from the photos I see the ones in America (no offense to those of you who have them, your dogs may be different) don’t seem much like the ones in Armenia, and hardly even seem to be the same breed. Humans eat lamb chops. Indeed, most of the Newfoundlands of that time were retriever-like: https://retrieverman.net/2012/04/20/teasing-apart-the-history-of-the-newfoundland-dog-the-st-johns-water-dog-and-the-retrievers/. If this plan is implemented, West Virginia will learn the hard way what a waste of money a bounty system for coyotes actually is. Coyotes seem to prefer to follow the “course of least resistance”, and follow frozen rivers. ). It takes no amazingly powerful and/or tough dog to attack a man, but to face a wolf is another story. Others–the big agribiz types–see only the bottom-line. Of course, such behavior would quickly get him killed wolf country. (How did they get there?). Although bounties have been liberally used on coyotes in the west, no bounty system has ever worked. But it’s obvious the Newfoundland must have always been a rather easygoing breed towards people, since Seaman was once stolen by “Indians”. WE will stop buying ginseng February 23, 2021. Those settlers then spent a hundred years trapping and poisoning coyotes left and right all the way to the Pacific Ocean. My dogs will scare the ever-loving crap out of a harmless intruder, but they will only bite someone who legitimately deserves it. My TM looks very much like the dogs you see in Tibet still with the nomads and I really hope that’s not lost in the future. We went back over to where the skinner now had the hide turned fur side out, and I recognized the color and pattern. A recent predator study conducted for the Department by Dr. Marcella Kelly and Ph.D. student Dana Morin, of Virginia Tech, estimated coyote population densities in Bath County at 22 coyotes per 100 square miles (0.22 mi2) and in western Rockingham County at 14 coyotes per 100 square miles (0.14 mi2). She now raises sheep, but I don’t think she’s had any problems with coyotes. We’ve lost the federal support.”. A hunting group even put a bounty on them. What happened was it conflicted with another cultural norm, which is allowing large numbers of hounds to run the countryside. He keeps 8 LGDs plus few kelpies (for herding) per 1500 sheep to achieve success. ), so I really don’t know the size of the animals I see, but the dead ones all seem to run about 30 to 50 lbs., with the exception of one that I judged (by lifting it) to weigh at least 80 lbs. Coyotes are now found in every province in Canada and every state in the US except Hawaii. Interestingly, this same burro was good buddies w/ my late dog Sam–I guess she could tell he meant no harm. Children are not the powerhouses bearhounds are. A bounty was put on them, and the last wolf was said to have been killed in 1900. When the Eastern coyote began expanding its range into the Mountain State in the ’70s, West Virginians had to learn to live with a new predator. In Maine, food habitat studies showed that white-tailed deer made up 50-60% of the coyote's diet, and this predation had the potential to have significant negative effects on the deer herd. Fortunately, in the end the bill was shot down, and no bounty was placed on coyotes. This coyote bounty lottery scheme will not reduce coyote numbers. Actually, science is too fast-changing culture, and can’t give any final answers and thus satisfy people’s mind. The trouble (as with most breeds) is that the showing world encourages extremes. “And the coyote is not all the problem, but it’s a significant part. Since the coyote is still colonizing areas in West Virginia, potential densities of coyotes and thus potential impacts are unknown.
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