Take this, all of you, and eat of it: this is my Body which will be given up for you. Using the word “enim” makes the emphasis explicit. The words of consecration in the 1st Eucharistic Prayer are certainly older than the Latin Vulgate. In any event, the word (or an equivalent) isn’t there in the original Greek (or Aramaic in all likelihood). Quotiescúmque enim mandu-cábitis panem hunc et cálicem bibétis, mortem Dómini an- Dr. Nicholas Gihr, 1877 1st edition, 1897 6th edition, translated from German ©1902, printed 1924, page 633.3 The New Roman Missal, Rev F. X. Lasance, Christian Book Club of America, 1993 “Faithful reprint of the 1945 Copyright edition of the Fr. Lasance New Roman Missal with appendix and changes of feasts promulgated under the pontificate of His Holiness Pope Pius XII, page 780.4 Daily Roman Missal, Rev. 5 This is My Body, which will be given up for you. Because this is the Lord’s body. . Because this is the Lord’s blood. (By the way, I highly recommend the tape) His conversion story, "A Triumph and a Tragedy," is published in Surprised by Truth. Besides being an author, Jimmy is the Senior Apologist at Catholic Answers, a contributing editor to Catholic Answers Magazine, and a weekly guest on "Catholic Answers Live." I wasn’t casting aspersions on His Holiness’ intentions. The readings have incipits. Thank you. Latin in the Mass may be good for those of us who can read, and follow along with Missals. Hoc est Corpus Meum quod pro vobis tradetur. But I don’t know a lick of Aramaic, so I have no way of telling if this is true or not. Hic calix novum testamentum est in meo sanguine: Hoc facite quotiescumque bibetis, in meam commemorationem. My question is, how did the enim get put in, since as far as I can tell, Jesus did not use the word? HOC EST ENIM CORPUS MEUM, QUOD PRO VOBIS TRADETUR. «Hoc est enim Corpus meum quod pro vobis tradetur... Hic est enim calix Sanguinis mei novi et aeterni testamenti qui pro vobis et pro multis effunde-tur...».5 Enuntiat haec verba sacerdos vel potius os suum suamque vocem praestat Illi qui in Cenaculo haec vocabula exprompsit, et qui voluit ut per Also, there were different versions of the Vulgate through history, and our current Latin liturgy does not match any one Latin edition of the Vulgate. PRENDETE, E BEVETENE TUTTI: "), so they may have judged enim to be redundant. . This is the way it is translated in older missals. Jimmy was born in Texas, grew up nominally Protestant, but at age 20 experienced a profound conversion to Christ. Examples translated by humans: el cuerpo mío, castigo mi cuerpo, este es mi cuerpo. 23 Ego enim accepi a Domino quod et tradidi vobis, quoniam Dominus Jesus in qua nocte tradebatur, accepit panem, 24 et gratias agens fregit, et dixit: Accipite, et manducate: hoc est corpus meum, quod pro vobis tradetur: hoc facite in meam commemorationem. Before listening to the tape, my impression of Vatican II was one of a progressivist conclave which allowed – or even compelled – all sorts of liturgical experimentation. Sorry…two corrections…distracted while posting. Chinese uses ma the same way. Franz, Wurzburg 1880, as found in Dr. Gihr, The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, page 636.13 The Mass of the Western Rites, Rt. The force and meaning of enim varies and gets weaker over time. But I don’t see any point in it, AT ALL, where most or all of the Congregation is illiterate and so not able to even see a translation of the Mass. Mk 14,24: hic est sanguis meus Pope Paul VI, Participation of the Faithful - 1962 Missale Romanum. I’m personally inclined – as others have already argued – toward the latter, and don’t see why “for” shouldn’t be included in the translation. PRENDETE, E MANGIATENE TUTTI: .”), so they may have judged enim to be redundant.} Nos Autem For this is My Body, which will be broken for you. Hoc fácite, quotiescúmque bibétis, in meam commemoratiónem. "Ego enim accepi a Domino quod et tradidi vobis, quoniam Dominus Jesus in qua nocte tradebatur, accepit panem, et gratias agens fregit, et dixit : Accipite, et manducate : HIC EST CORPUS MEUM, quod pro vobis tradetur : hoc facite in meam commemorationem. 1 My Sunday Missal, Rt. You may be interested to know that in the current (and much better!) The "of," of course, is reflecting the ex in the Latin. The Latin consecration over the cup says “pro multis”, which used to be translated as “for many” (as one would understand from the Latin), but is now translated as “for all”. Sorry, that should read “Greek New Testament” not “Septuagint”. Greek often uses hoti to signal the beginning of a quotation, the way we use quotation marks.). Ipse enim in qua nocte tradebátur accépit panem et tibi grátias agens benedíxit, fregit, dedítque discípulis suis, dicens: ACCÍPITE ET MANDUCÁTE EX HOC OMNES: HOC EST ENIM CORPUS MEUM, QUOD PRO VOBIS TRADÉTUR. Accípite et manducáte ex hoc omnes : "HOC EST ENIM CORPUS MEUM, QUOD PRO VOBIS TRADÉTUR." Panem caeli dedit eis, alleluia, alleluia. Participation by the people is worth more—particularly participation by modern people, so fond of plain language which is easily understood and converted into everyday speech. Why do we take and drink? Mt 26,28: hic est enim sanguis meus Planning on becoming a Protestant seminary professor, he started an intensive study of the Bible. Accipite et comedite hoc est corpus meum - Matthew 26:26 - 'Take, eat, this is my body' Hoc est corpus meum - Mark 14:22 - 'This is my body' Hoc est corpus meum quod pro vobis datur; hoc facite in meam commemorationem - Luke 22:19 - 'This is my body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of me' “12. Deinde ponit et calicem dicit: "Tolle hunc, omnes vos, et bibite ex eo omnes: hic est enim calix sanguinis mei, novi et aeterni Foederis in sanguine est. 23 Ego enim accepi a Domino quod et tradidi vobis, quoniam Dominus Jesus in qua nocte tradebatur, accepit panem, 24 et gratias agens fregit, et dixit: Accipite, et manducate: hoc est corpus meum, quod pro vobis tradetur: hoc facite in meam commemorationem. Understanding of prayer is worth more than the silken garments in which it is royally dressed. Postea prosequitur. Mozarabic Missale Mixtum6 Ordo Missae Ambrosianum7 Divine Liturgy of St. Basil8 Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom9 Syriac Antiochean Maronite Liturgy; select The Twelve Apostles from the Anaphora drop down box.10 The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass: Dogmatically, Litugically and Ascetically Explained, Rev. [91611] Officium Sacerdos, hora 3 resp. So he foresaw, at least, that the “greater part” of Gregorian Chant would be lost. HIC EST ENIM CALIX SANGUINIS MEI NOVI ET AETERNI TESTAMENTI, If the divine Latin language kept us apart from the children, from youth, from the world of labor and of affairs, if it were a dark screen, not a clear window, would it be right for us fishers of souls to maintain it as the exclusive language of prayer and religious intercourse?
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