Although I haven’t tried the stainless variant here, 440C is a high-end steel, being a hard and wear-resistant steel. Although the two knives have similarities, they also have a lot of differences. Except for knife only models, the ESEE-6 comes standard with a molded sheath. 4. The kind of uncle that could walk through a brick wall without even slowing down. ESEE 5 VS ESEE 6. entre les deux mon coeur balance !.. HOWEVER, if I was to have to have only ONE Esee it would be the 5 as thats nearly the best of both worlds and would fit the need for a good bushcrafter WITH a large enough knife for "combat" needs. The ESEE-5 and ESEE-6 can also have a separately sold accessory pouch attached to the sheath. First of all, the no-nonsense attitude towards utility and quality, based on extensive experience of field use, not just of design. Some older variants of these knives had a partially sharpened spine, but the current ones don’t. The ESEE-4 in a kydex sheath with detachable MOLLE back, set up for left-handed user. American stores in particular can have them at extremely reasonable prices though. In that sense the two complement each other in regular chores when outdoors. Weight (Knife Only): 12 Ounces / 340g, Steel & Hardening: 1095 Carbon Steel, 55-57 Rc. The retention strap is also secured with velcro instead of a button. Why is that? Comparative shot of the ESEE-4, ESEE-5 & ESEE-6 and other common utility, survival & bushcraft knives like Ontario Blackbird & Chimera, Fällkniven F1, S1 & A1, KA-BAR and Mora Survival, 2000 & Classic 1. With that in mind it should also suit an urban prepping bag, where breaking & prying things and chopping would be more important than cutting thin slices of wood. The handles are the same on the ESEE-5 and ESEE-6 and is quite comfortable, made out of micarta, although the ESEE-4 can also be had in G104 . ESEE 4: Flat vs. Contoured Handles. Still, it is considerably lighter than the ESEE-5, weighing in at 12 Ounces / 340g thus being 4 Ounces / 114g lighter. The ESEE-4 is a fixed blade outdoor, survival, bushcraft and tactical blade made of 1095 High Carbon Steel which holds an edge through the toughest of chores. Grind: Saber Other than that the only slight annoyance would be the laser etching which exposes the steel, meaning it will rust unless cared for. Even more solid than ‘normal’ ESEE knives. I would not feel under gunned if I had this knife in a survival situation. They are attached with an included clip plate or MOLLE locks. Messages: 254 Likes Received: 588 Gender: Male Location: 65672. Time will tell how it holds up to wear. Overall Blade Length: 6.50″ / 16.5cm The sheath for the ESEE-6 is made out of molded plastic which is good, but I would have prefered it to have the sheath made out of more durable kydex as with the ESEE-5. ESEE 6. A hidden tang is better for such climates. The pommel has a lanyard hole and on the ESEE-4 and ESEE-6 is rounded, while on the ESEE-5 it is designed to be used as a glass-breaker. If you could only choose the 5 or 6 for survival, which one and why? This knife is consequently more like an, Huey, Dewey and Louie Junior Woodchuck Guidebooks, Review: OUTXE W20 20000mAh Wireless Solar Power Bank, Review: Therm-a-Rest Trail Pro 4-Season Sleeping Pad, Review: Carinthia High Insulation Garment 3, RAT Cutlery stands for Randall’s Adventure & Training [, ESEE Knives stands for Escuela de Supervivencia (School of Survival), Escape and Evasion [, The Lite Machete is manufactured by Imacasa in El Salvador [, Paracord is the type of cord that was originally designed for parachutes and is thus both extremely strong and durable [, The Ontario RAT-3 was originally designed by ESEE Knives [, The Ontario RAT-5 was originally designed by ESEE Knives [, The Ontario RAT-7 was originally designed by ESEE Knives [. We will never back off of that philosophy. The ESEE-5 and ESEE-6 Molle back, to which the kydex sheaths are fastened using Phillips screws. In addition, the Esee 4 blade is thicker than the Benchmade Bushcrafter. It can be used both for quite delicate tasks through choiling and jimping as well as for batoning and cutting wood. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Redbear Member. It can still be used comfortably with the index finger in front of the grip though. The odd one out amongst the 6,5,4 and 3. Still, it is trickier removing rust from the laser etching than the edge if it happens. The answer to that question probably comes down to two very important components. I agree that for an "all around best" choice, the RC-4 would be the one. Once we make the final design tweaks and the knife is put into production, we test the design again during field outings Stateside and jungle survival classes in the Peruvian Amazon. Check Price On Amazon. It does everything I need except for heavy chopping. It is designed to be able to break almost anything and while it might not break a certain object as easily as a specialized tool, a specialized tool will only be good at breaking what it is designed to break. All knives are field tested in various demanding environments and particularly jungle, as ESEE explains themselves: We personally field test each new design prototype before is makes it to the production stage. Maximum Thickness: .25″ / 6.3mm Still, as these aren’t originally designed for Nordic climates, this comes as no surprise. Weight (Knife Only): 8.0 ounces / 226g, Steel & Hardening: 1095 Carbon Steel, or 440C Stainless Steel, 55 – 57 Rc. They describe how they can keep such a warranty with the following words: The answer is simple; we believe that American consumers, as a whole, are honest people. That said I love how I can smash through thick and twisted logs even in cold winter weather using the ESEE-5, even frozen logs, without fear of breaking it. The ESEE-6 is the big brother to the ESEE-4 and the product range equivalent to the Ontario RAT-78 . This knife is consequently more like an axe than a knife intended for more delicate bushcraft work. Finally, all these blades, grips and sheaths come in different colours, in some cases quite discreet and in some quite bright, like the Venom Green blade with Orange handle. Design Update – Overall Length 11.75 inches Blade Length 6.50 inches. The ESEE-6 knives were designed as wilderness survival and tactical knives with superb cutting efficiency and multiple carry options. Esee Esee, Londrina. Optional MOLLE Backs and Pouches may be ordered. Handles: Removable Linen Micarta The blade also has grooves for thumb jimping, like on the other two knives. The weight difference is barely noticeable on your person. 1095 is a good steel and with the hardening used (55-57 HRc) has good edge retention while still being easy to sharpen. Add to that the fact that you can return any broken knife, no questions asked, and even sell it to someone else with that very lifetime guarantee intact and these knives suddenly seem very reasonable priced, even if the investment is initially high in some countries. First you begin with the blade, and build up from there, selecting the handle color of your choice, sheath, and other accessories like firesteels, loops, and more. Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Redbear, Aug 10, 2017. It comes in two steel variants: The earlier mentioned 1095, but also a 440C Stainless Steel variant. And for most of the year it is of no concern, especially those parts where people tend to stay outdoors. Overall Blade Length: 4.5″ /11.4cm Cutting Edge Length: 4.1″ / 10.4cm I’ve found that for the price the ESEE 4 is a good knife that performs and won’t let you down when you need it. Sheathing: Ambidextrous Molded Plastic Sheath W/ Clip Plate, Features: Drop Point Blade, Rounded Pommel w/ Lanyard Hole, ESEE-6 in the plastic sheath. Despite having looked I have yet to find a single complaint against them. All these knives can all be held in any grip, making them very nice to work with, even with various reversed and inverted grips. The ESEE-5 is a completely different beast. Whether it be this or Idaho Made stamping. Some configurations also include the option of, using a Phillips screwdriver, attaching a nylon MOLLE-compatible attachment system, called the MOLLE back, and which allows you to carry it on your pack or on your belt in various ways and which can be set up both for right- and lefthanded users. Second a life-time warranty that follows the knife, not the owner, and thus is transferable to any number of new owners, no questions asked. In fact, they are surprisingly comfortable in any grip, despite their angular and curved shapes. Spine: Thumb Jimping We request your assistance dealing with this as we do not want to see the site shut down due to violent threats. The Blades Esee 4 is a knife made of 1095 carbon steel which is the best choice for professional works of cutlery and heavy duty tasks. ESEE KNIVES. I have an Esee 4 & 6 and love them both like my own children. That said, the scales can be easily removed and replaced with a simple hex wrench. ESEE 4 vs. BK16, now this is quite a tough match but as long as you know their characteristics clearly, it’s not hard to decide. Spine: Thumb Jimping Conclusion. :thumbup: You and I seem to agree on a few things. The sheath has a tension screw that can be slid up to lock the knife into the sheath, making it impossible to accidentally fall or even be pulled out. And that is really nitpicking things, as you need to care for the carbon steel edge anyways. They are capable of doing various tasks without any issues such as splitting woods by batoning them through it, chopping a long branch to be used for kindling, making spears for hunting, etc. Also, there is an advantage in having the grip designed like this, in that you can actually carefully baton the handle if it gets stuck in a log. However, for regular trips I would be bringing a thinner knife with me alongside of it, for those more delicate carving tasks. ESEE Knives, formerly R.A.T Cutlery is one of the most well-regarded cutlers in the USA, a cutler with a strong reputation for quality, and with the owners Jeff Randall and Mike Perrin standing by their products no matter what. Handles: Removable Linen Micarta Handles As can be seen from the data above, this is a pretty big knife with a total length of 11.75″ / 29.8cm, which is 1.25″ longer than the ESEE-5. In this case, and as is most common, the tang is visible all the way. There’s a ton of good gear out there, but many gear companies lack the ‘hands-on’ training to back up their designs. They each have a lanyard hole at the end of the handle, but ESEE 5 features a wider lanyard hole than ESEE 6. Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by Kyeg, Dec 17, 2010. The kind of guy you would want on your side…. These knives aren’t specific bushcraft knives, but more wilderness survival knives, designed for that particular context and very much for reliability, but somewhat less for versatility, although they are certainly more than serviceable in most contexts.The only ‘fancy’ aspect of these knives is the quality. This article is also published on HROARR.com, http://eseeknives.com/american-handgunner.pdf, Designed by Elegant Themes | Powered by WordPress, Roger is a freelance writer and private researcher of, , which thus needs to meet even tougher requirements. are all possible with any of them. Consequently it needs to be able to slice through fur & skin, chop wood, cut cord, carve wood, break glass, pry doors open, and many other and varied tasks. Spine: Thumb Jimping The only ‘fancy’ aspect of these knives is the quality. Rowen also used to make blades for Tops Knives, another renowned high-end cutler who also manufactured the RAT Laser Strike many years ago. Neither company works with Tops Knives today though. Grind: Full Flat Grind The blades all have a spine with grooves for thumb jimping so you can use your thumb better to press down along the spine of the blade when carving. This is a good thing as it means less risk of breaking at the tang. They're about the same price, and I was thinking about buying one used because of the price. The ESEE-4 can also be had with an orange G10 handle for those who prefer it. While this is true for the ESEE-5 also, it still excels in being extremely reliable, meaning you will likely never break it even if you try. So, what is the difference between Esee 4 vs Benchmade Bushcrafter, and which is the better blade you choose. Finish: Textured Powder Coat In 2010 they changed their cutlery name to ESEE Knives2 and began producing their own knives under their own brand and with that the two companies parted ways completely. The blade has a sabre grind and doesn’t have as distinct an indented choil for the index finger, as the ESEE-4 and ESEE-6 have. Whilst the ESEE-6’s blade length is much longer at 6.5″, the blade thickness is only 0.188″. The mid-size survival knife that is almost impossible to destroy. The sheath can be attached to a nylon MOLLE back, Overall Length: 11.0″ / 28cm BladeForums has ZERO TOLERANCE for extremism or calls of violence. Bon lequel je prend ? I know the Esee 5 is 4 ounces heavier than the Esee 6, because of the width of the blade. This is due to a thinner .188″ / 4.8mm blade which is the same as the ESEE-4. Grind: Full Flat Grind So, starting up in 1997 as RAT Cutlery1 and using their extensive experience in teaching survival skills to the military, law enforcement & civilians, and for the jungle in particular, Randall and Perrin set about designing the best knives they could make with the above concepts in mind. For more details on this knife you can download the ESEE-5 Instruction Sheet. Finish: Textured Powder Coat The 4.5-inch length is a nice size for an all-rounder fixed blade knife: big enough to feel substantially more powerful than a folder, but not so big as to make carrying one feel awkward. If you want a knife exclusively for camping/hiking, then definitely go for the 6. Of course it is fixable with some tape, but I am relucant to do so on such nice knives. It has a thumb jimping spine and an indented choil for the index finger, to alleviate more delicate tasks. Quite the contrary, I can find nothing but praise for this company. Our revolutionary ESEE-6 Knife Builder allows you to easily create the knife of your dreams. ). For more details on this knife you can download the ESEE-4 Instruction Sheet. Maximum Thickness: .188″ / 4.8mm The ESEE-6 has become a very popular choice for an all-around wilderness/outdoor knife, and for good reason. Description. Despite this length it is quite agile and versatile, good for batoning as well as for carving and preparing food. Unlike the image below, on my variant, the retention strap folds the opposite way and also has a lanyard hole for easier use. Sheathing: Ambidextrous Molded Kydex Sheath W/ Clip Plate, Although it might seem like it, this is not a brother of the other two knives, but rather a stocky, hairy & brutal uncle that is a bit scary to meet. All ESEE knives except the Lite Machete3 and the ESEE/Becker cooking knives are produced by famous Rowen Manufacturing in Idaho Falls, Idaho. ESEE is changing the way a knife and gear customer looks at what they’re buying or trusting their life to. The pommel is designed specifically so that it can be used as a glass breaker to smash car or cockpit windows. Their handle designs are quite similar. P.O. In operation since 1998, BladeForums.com has led the industry since Day 1. In some ways it’s suprising that these knives get put side-by-side as often as they do. All three blades come in plain or partially serrated edges sharpened at 20 degrees per side. Rowen is another respected company that is known for manufacturing excellent blades with very good heat treating and the collaboration with ESEE goes back all the way to the RAT Cutlery days. As already discussed, only the ESEE-4 and ESEE-6 are close relatives here and while not being extremes, are still at the opposite ends of typical use, with the smaller knife better for more delicate work and the larger better for chopping. The ESEE-5 is the product range equivalent to the Ontario RAT-57 and is designed specifically as an aircrew survival knife, which thus needs to meet even tougher requirements. Sheaths are now regular plastic instead. It is pointy and strong and should work well, although I haven’t tried it, even if I would like to…. The Esee 6 and The Esee 5 All of them fit my needs, which are:-A knife to use when bugging out and SHTF - A knife to use for bushcraft/hunting - A knife to use for batoning and shelter making (least important because I have other tools for this) After boggling my mind for a while, I decided to come here and ask for help. They are not the prettiest of sheaths, but very well-designed, utilitarian, durable and fulfill the two basic requirements: They stay securely on your belt/pack and the knife doesn’t come loose even with the retention strap open. The blade is flat ground and has a curved distal tapering with a distinct angle only at the very point, coming from the edge grind. The ESEE 4 is maybe the best American-made survival knife that you can get your hands on, this knife is a sturdy companion whether you’re bush crafting, doing survival or camping, any of that outdoor uses you might need it for, the ESEE 4 has a lot of variety with different colors and different handles, but today we’re going the base model ESEE 4, it features a 4.5” drop point … Overall Length: 9.0″ / 22.9cm Even at 0°C / 32°F it is no fun holding the naked steel of the grip with bare hands. Good paracord cords with cord locks are also included with the sheaths. If I had to pick one of these knives to use for survival in the Nordic woods, I would likely be picking the ESEE-6, given that it is the most versatile and usable knife of them all, for that context. The ESEE-5 breaks it all. For more details on this knife you can download the ESEE-6 Instruction Sheet. Both ESEE 5 and ESEE 6 are equipped with micarta handle scales. The sheaths all of course also have a drainage port, a hole, at the bottom for water to run out of. However in cold climates this is less suitable as naked steel against exposed skin is not so good. However, keep in mind that it rusts easily and needs to be maintained properly, also on the laser-engraved text, or you will see rust developing quickly. ESEE Knives has taken the best features of bushcraft/survival knives and created the outstanding ESEE-6. Cutting Edge Length: 5.75″ / 14.6cm The blade is flat-ground and has a gently curved distal tapering with a distinct angle only at the very point, coming from the edge grind. It has a thumb jimping spine and an indented choil for the index finger, to alleviate more delicate tasks. Sheathing: Ambidextrous Molded Sheath W/ Clip Plate, Features: Drop Point Blade Style, Rounded Pommel w/ Lanyard Hole. Here is an example of how it is done. The accessory pouch, attachable to the ESEE-5 and ESEE-6 Molle back. We got in this business to show the consumer and the knife industry that it is possible to make a superior product for an affordable price. The latter is a rare thing with any product today and I personally find it very impressive. I am a little bit concerned about how it will hold up to impact in cold winter weather, but temperatures here aren’t low enough to try it properly. When you combine this with a weight reduction of 4oz over the ESEE-6, you have knife that is far more nimble and much better suited to tasks which require more finesse, such as meat cutting or whittling. These cards come in several different variants that can also be bought separately. We simply saw a need that wasn’t being filled when it came to real-world gear and training. Box 99 Gallant, AL 35972 Phone: (256) 613-0372 Email: info@eseeknives.com Privacy Policy Junglas 2 and ESEE 6 Performance The last part we want to talk about is their performance but in terms of reliability, Junglas 2 and ESEE 6 are just amazing. That much thicker even that the ESEE 5 is twice as heavy as the ESEE 6, while it is only a couple centimeters shorter. Finish: Textured Powder Coat Weight (Knife Only): 16 Ounces / 454g, Steel: 1095 Carbon Steel, 55-57 Rc For the ESEE-5 and ESEE-6 the top portion of the sheaths can also be removed, but not on the ESEE-4. ESEE 6hm ou 4hm ? This is a brilliant and simple solution. The ESEE-5 sheaths are made out of kydex, while the ESEE-4 & ESEE-6 sheaths are made out of seemingly less durable plastic. Here is one example. Pommel folding cover clearly visible. They designed a knife to fulfill their own demands and needs called the RTAK, which was first manufactured by Newt Livesay of Wicked Knife Co and to their surprise, the knife became quite popular. Down below are features and specification of the knife, take a look at them and consider their usefulness to your needs. Esee-4: - good for slicing - light weight - good for light batoning Esee-5: - can work for trimming tree limbs - hard to break - can baton decent size wood and handle smaller tasks with practice Esee-6: - designed as a camp knife - not overly heavy - can baton trough decent size wood and has a choil that makes smaller tasks easier But, if you look at the knives a little closer, and specifically look at the blades, you’ll soon find that one may suit your needs better than the … The ESEE-4 is the product range equivalent to the Ontario RAT-36 This knife is the little brother of the ESEE-6 and is the closest of the three to being a bushcrafting knife, working quite well for many tasks including chopping down brush, preparing food and carving wood. Exceptionally sharp blade: Esee 6: Esee blade is made of high-quality carbon steel 1095 and considered as one of the best-fixed blade survival knives.. Its 6.5” blade with 3/16” thickness cuts well through any kind of meat. These knives aren’t specific bushcraft knives, but more wilderness survival knives, designed for that particular context and very much for reliability, but somewhat less for versatility, although they are certainly more than serviceable in most contexts. While the ESEE-4 and ESEE-6 have distinct indented choils for the index finger, this is far less distinct on the ESEE-5. Their personal integrity is renowned, highly respected and never disputed. In addition, ESEE 5 comes with a glass breaker pommel, whereas ESEE 6 … The sheaths all have pommel covers. The ESEE-4 is the longer, thicker "wilderness" model of the popular ESEE-3 tactical knife. 463 likes. An all-cordura or leather sheath for cold climates would be nice, but can be had from other makers. I don't want to get a fake "Esee" though, so I will figure that out when the time comes. As often said; ‘a tool designed to do many things will excel at none‘. I have one an Love it. https://northernbush.com/review-esee-4-esee-5-esee-6-knives All these knives are full tang, meaning the blade extends as a broad, solid and strong piece of steel from point to end. Handles: Removable Canvas Micarta With the ESEE-6 designed as an outdoors/survival knife and the BK7 a traditional combat/utility knife, both have their differences. And there are makers who market custom made scales (and sheaths) for these knives, but you could also make your own out of some nice wood. Reportedly it works quite well without causing much damage. It’s really easy to see why these knives get put alongside each other so often given how closely aligned they are. I wouldn’t use it to baton logs though due to the shorter blade. Overall Blade Length: 5.25″ / 13.3cm It is designed as a survival knife for very harsh conditions, where you have no other tools to rely on, instead trusting everything on a single knife. It chops like a beast, but doesn’t carve very well, only decently, despite being very sharp. Included with the knives come neat little plastic cards with tips on survival that can be carried in your wallet or your pack. I think, personally, I would prefer the 440C variant, but that is due to my Scandinavian roots, growing up with Swedish stainless Moras that are dead-easy to maintain in the field. The ESEE-4 has the exact same handle profile as the ESEE-3 and an extra inch of blade. The left side of the grip also has a divot, a retention, which you can use for making fire using a bow drill. ESEE 5. The standard blades are made out of 1095 non-stainless steel that is texture powder coated for protection against corrosion. The ESEE-5 with glass-breaking pommel, and the kydex sheath with tension screw and belt clip. This, rather surprisingly, many cutlers fail at, but ESEE succeeds with a very good margin. There are no gadgets or ‘cool’ features to the knives. Its 5.75” cutting edge … https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/bladeforums-has-a-zero-tolerance-policy-towards-threats-of-violence-extremism-be-warned.1769537/, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. A ESEE-UEL tem como objetivo capacitar profissionais para desenvolver sistemas eletrônicos embarcados. In general, the ESEE 6 vs ESEE 5 comparison shows a lot of interesting features about the two survival knives. Esee knives are made in the USA by ROAN MANUFACTURING, they’re built to take the beating and they’re great for tactical, survival, and bushcraft applications, and today we’re going to take a look at two of them, the ESEE 3 and ESEE4, and we will try to answer One f the common question in the knife community, the ESEE 3 VS ESEE 4 or ESEE 4 VS ESEE 3. After all, the ESEE Model 5 has a blade that is a lot thicker. I think you could easily get away with the 4. For Nordic climates and winter use it would have been nice to have the tang covered. Instead they are designed for what a knife is really only supposted to do; to cut, chop, slice and pierce. It works well though. All these knives and sheaths are of extremely high quality in material and manufacture. ESEE-6 vs BK7 – Key Comparisons. In 2002 they licensed Ontario Knives Company to produce the RTAK knife on a 5-year contract, and also designed the RTAK II, the TAK, the RAT-3, RAT-5 and RAT-7 as well as the Model 1 and Model II folders to be manufactured by the Ontario Knives Company during this period. Key Features of ESEE 6. About the ESEE-4, ESEE-5 and ESEE-6 knives in general. In the case of the ESEE-4 it is a simple elastic one, but in the other cases they are more advanced covers that fold over the grip and is secured with paracord5 and a paracord lock, meaning you can run, climb and jump around without risk of the knife falling out. Maximum Thickness: .188″ / 4.8mm The 4 makes a better all around utility knife, but the larger 6 definitely makes for a better camp/hiking knife. ESEE-3 vs ESEE-4 – Key Comparisons. Overall Length: 11.75″ / 29.8cm On the other hand the staggering 0.25″ / 6.3mm thickness with no real tapering of the blade (the blade only tapers in the last inch at a distinct flat angle) means it can be used for prying with no risk of breaking, something which would be important to a downed aircrew. Their goal described below further instills a lot of respect and combined with the above creates a very strong profile built on credibility and honesty. Of course an accessory pouch would help protect the plastic sheath. As noted earlier, the sheath of this knife is somewhat simpler than those of the other two in that the pommel cover on the sheath is just a simple elastic band. It is thus the most versatile of the three, if not as indestructible as the ESEE-5. As always, one also needs to keep in mind the use the knife is designed for, in this case downed aircrew in hostile environments and similar situations and needs.
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